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Ciobo

Biker tremendus
...per la quota posso darti ragione anche se non ho mai fatto caso se lo faceva anche prima
...per le foto non puoi pretendere che abbia una scheda video in grado di elaborare file da 12megapixel....e nemmeno una memoria in grado di farlo...:il-saggi:

...probabilmente perchè il mondo del geochachin è più sviluppato a livello mondiale di quello che pensi

  1. da sempre sul 62s e 62st è possibile visualizzare più campi dati compreso la quota, pag 10 delle mie impressioni, non è possibile visualizzare le variazioni in quanto queste sono visualizzabili nella pagina altimetro
  2. se stai navigando una traccia che abbia al suo interno i dati altimetrici nella pagina altimetro avrai l'altimetria in verde quella fatta e in blu quella da fare pag15 delle mie impressioni
  3. prerogativa della serie edge i quanto il map non prevede la funzione virtual partner
  4. se attivi le finestre waypoint a destinazione, distanza al sucessivo, distanza a destinazione, eta a destinazione, eta a sucessivo, ora a destinazione avrai tutte le info che vuoi a te la scelta se mpre che tu abbia attiva la navigazione di una traccia o di un a rotta
  5. le tracce hanno il nome del file e il nome della traccia...se rinomini il file e non rinomini la proprietà non pretendere di vedere quello che vuoi tu
  6. dipende da come sei impostato in imposta mappa < opzioni mappa avanzate < livello zoom e dimensione testo
...o-o...Considerazioni utilizzo rev03 - 62.pdf

...personalmente sto aspettando che mi attivino anche qua i satelliti glonass...


1 - a me piacerebbe avere la possibilità di impostare nel computer di viaggio anche ascesa totale e ascesa massima ma non si può, infatti li guardo nella pagina altimetria :medita:

2 - :nunsacci: a parte il discorso altimetria verde=fatta e blu=da fare, ma i riferimenti non ci sono comunque :medita:

3 - scusa ma cosa centra il virtual partner? Io parlavo di grafico della velocità :nunsacci:

4 - ma allora a cosa serve la pagina rotta attiva?! In effetti come dici te, si possono impostare molte cose sul computer di viaggio, ma ci vorrebbe la possibilità di poterne usare due di pagine computer di viaggio, per non dover continuamente cambiare tutti i campi :medita:

5 - scusa ma non ho capito cosa intendi con nome del file e nome della traccia...per me i nomi che vedo sul gps devono corrispondere a quelli che vedo sul pc, quando colleghi il gps e lo apri come una unità esterna. :nunsacci:

6 - ho impostato in mille modi ma i nomi delle vie proprio non saltano fuori :medita:


Aldilà di tutto ciò, vorrei dire che siamo ben lontani dalla possibilità di impostare le cose come vogliamo... :medita:
 

scratera

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1 - a me piacerebbe avere la possibilità di impostare nel computer di viaggio anche ascesa totale e ascesa massima ma non si può, infatti li guardo nella pagina altimetria :medita:

2 - :nunsacci: a parte il discorso altimetria verde=fatta e blu=da fare, ma i riferimenti non ci sono comunque :medita:

3 - scusa ma cosa centra il virtual partner? Io parlavo di grafico della velocità :nunsacci:

4 - ma allora a cosa serve la pagina rotta attiva?! In effetti come dici te, si possono impostare molte cose sul computer di viaggio, ma ci vorrebbe la possibilità di poterne usare due di pagine computer di viaggio, per non dover continuamente cambiare tutti i campi :medita:

5 - scusa ma non ho capito cosa intendi con nome del file e nome della traccia...per me i nomi che vedo sul gps devono corrispondere a quelli che vedo sul pc, quando colleghi il gps e lo apri come una unità esterna. :nunsacci:

6 - ho impostato in mille modi ma i nomi delle vie proprio non saltano fuori :medita:


Aldilà di tutto ciò, vorrei dire che siamo ben lontani dalla possibilità di impostare le cose come vogliamo... :medita:


  1. ..
  2. se scorri con il selettore sull'altimetria puoi visualizzare qualsiasi punto e visionarlo sulla pagina mappa con tutti i dati legatia al punto in questione...certo non lo puoi fare mentre pedali ma ti devi fermare
  3. se volevo il grafico velocità come ti ripeto prendevo un edge....che velocità vuoi che interessi a uno che pratica autdoor a piedi..
  4. puoi impostare fino a 10 campi dati sulla pagina compiuter di viaggio...screma e metti quelli che ti servono
  5. il file gpx può chiamarsi pinco mentre la traccia vera e proprio contenuta può chaimarsi pallino.....visualizzerai pallino nel track manager
  6. probabilmente le trek non lo permettono...le mie fatte da osm me lo visualizzano il nome...
 

Ciobo

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  1. ..
  2. se scorri con il selettore sull'altimetria puoi visualizzare qualsiasi punto e visionarlo sulla pagina mappa con tutti i dati legatia al punto in questione...certo non lo puoi fare mentre pedali ma ti devi fermare
  3. se volevo il grafico velocità come ti ripeto prendevo un edge....che velocità vuoi che interessi a uno che pratica autdoor a piedi..
  4. puoi impostare fino a 10 campi dati sulla pagina compiuter di viaggio...screma e metti quelli che ti servono
  5. il file gpx può chiamarsi pinco mentre la traccia vera e proprio contenuta può chaimarsi pallino.....visualizzerai pallino nel track manager
  6. probabilmente le trek non lo permettono...le mie fatte da osm me lo visualizzano il nome...

Confermo. Per leggere il nome delle vie delle Trekmap sia sul gps che su Mapsource o Basecamp bisogna portare il cursore sulla via.

francesco
Scusate se insisto:

1 - non vedo perchè certi dati possano essere visualizzati solo in una pagina piuttosto che su un'altra, mi sembra una stupida limitazione, anche mentale di chi ha programmato l'aggeggio...ma va bene ugualmente :medita:
2 - un grafico senza riferimenti mi sembra incompleto, ma forse sono troppo pignolo...
3 - sul discorso che a chi fa outdoor poco interessa il grafico della velocità hai ragione, ma visto che lo strumento è stato pensato anche per chi fa bici (si può collegare il sensore di cadenza e la fascia cardio) e altre attività all'aperto, potevano metterlo...del resto sulla traccia viene registrato, perchè non poterlo visualizzare?! Mi sembra un'altra limitazione ma va bene comunque :medita:
4 - 10 non mi bastano, sono ingordo :smile: e mi sento limitato potendone solo visualizzare 10 alla volta su 42 :medita:

Mentre continuo a scrivere mi sento sempre più pignolo, perfezionista e rompicog..oni, ma è la mia indole :il-saggi:

5 - grazie, farò le dovute prove per capire questa cosa :medita:

6 - avete ragione, con la Trek non si vedono i nomi delle vie, a parte quando ci vai sopra col cursore, mentre sulle OSM si. Ho anche fatto una prova sulla Recreational Map of Europe topo v3 e si vedono anche li. :celopiùg:

Buon week-end
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frder

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Sei libero di insistere, ma lo fai nel posto sbagliato. Qui nessuno partecipa allo sviluppo del software del 62s.
Manda un'email alla Garmin e rappresenta le tue esigenze.

Poi, se vogliamo essere pignoli, il dato della velocità NON viene registrato nel gps. Quindi per visualizzare un grafico come quello che vuoi tu il gps deve calcolare la velocità di ogni tratto utilizzando posizione e tempi di registrazione dei vari punti, con evidente utilizzo di risorse di calcolo che magari sono necessarie per fare qualche altra cosa.

francesco
 

scratera

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...calmiamo un attimino gli animi
...tra mappa, compiuter di bordo, bussola e altimetro hai la possibilità di vedere 20 campi dati diversi e non mi sembrano pochi se poi come dici tu i dati altimetrici li possiamo vedere solo sulla pagina altimetro, ed è vero, presumibilmente perchè questi dati sono assenti sul modello base 62 visto che non ha il barometro, un motivo probabilmente chi lo ha studiato lo avrà anche avuto ...:medita:...e poi hai a disposizione anche i profili in cui puoi configurare altre impostazioni nei vari menù
...personalmente trovo più limitante il fatto che il menù che mi attiva la registrazione sia nascosto sotto il menu impostazioni....visto che è li che posso decidere quando iniziare una registrazione e sopratutto quando la devo interrompere...:medita:
...e comunque hai per le mani uno strumento in grado di dialogare con una marea di altri supporti a partire dal pc che se vuoi puoi usare come schermo durante una navigazione sempre se riesci a metterlo sul manubrio della tua bici....cosa che altri non fanno...:cucù:
...o-o...

...per le tracce in poche parole se tu il file.gpx lo chiami pinco e dopo tramite basecamp nomini la traccia pallino...se prendi quel file e lo carichi sul 62 ti verrà mostrato col nome pallino....:spetteguless:
 

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io una cosa non ho capito: perché garmin mette il 62s a 400€ e l'etrex 30 250€ ?
a me pare che l'hardware tra i due sia identico e le prestazioni pure (anzi, l'etrex prende più satelliti)
qualcuno sa rispondermi? cos'ha in più il 62s?

ps
io ho un 62s
 

vagante

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Aiutatemi, dopo l'aggiornamento fatto ieri non visualizzo più ne tracce ne waypoint che avevo memorizzato nel mio 62S, ma se lo collego al pc e apro la gartella garmin gpx sono presenti, inoltre non mi trasferisce più i dati ne con mapsource che con basecamp. grazie
 

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io una cosa non ho capito: perché garmin mette il 62s a 400&#8364; e l'etrex 30 250&#8364; ?
a me pare che l'hardware tra i due sia identico e le prestazioni pure (anzi, l'etrex prende più satelliti)
qualcuno sa rispondermi? cos'ha in più il 62s?

ps
io ho un 62s

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Locked="false" Priority="21" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Intense Emphasis"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="31" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Subtle Reference"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="32" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Intense Reference"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="33" SemiHidden="false" UnhideWhenUsed="false" QFormat="true" Name="Book Title"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="37" Name="Bibliography"/> <w:LsdException Locked="false" Priority="39" QFormat="true" Name="TOC Heading"/> </w:LatentStyles> </xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 10]> <style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"Tabella normale"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-priority:99; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} </style> <![endif]--> · NMEA &#8211; abilitiamo la porta USB per dialogare con i prodotti che supportano la standard NMEA 0183.
· Solo testo - fornisce le semplici informazioni in uscita con lo standard testo ASCII con i dati relativi a posizione e velocità.
· RTCM &#8211; ovvero Radio Technical Commission for Maritime Services e consente il dialogo con gli apparecchi che trattano informazioni DGPS per la trasmissione di dati RTCM in un formato SC-104.
cose queste che solo il map62 fa non i risulta che altri lo facciano a parte l'oregon che dialoga solo però con protocollo NMEA


Aiutatemi, dopo l'aggiornamento fatto ieri non visualizzo più ne tracce ne waypoint che avevo memorizzato nel mio 62S, ma se lo collego al pc e apro la gartella garmin gpx sono presenti, inoltre non mi trasferisce più i dati ne con mapsource che con basecamp. grazie

...mmhhh....potrei suggerirti di tornare lla relase firmware 3.40 visto che sei andato ad aggiornare alla 3.50 che ha già riscontrato un paio di bachi....
...se non ce l'hai la trovi qua

GPSMAP62_78_WebUpdat..>
..una volta scaricata la devi rinominare in GUPDATE.GCD e posizionare il file all'interno della cartella Garmin del 62S
....accenderlo e confermare il fatto di voler tornare ad una versione precedente....o-o..
 

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Scaricato ma mi dice che per aprire il file c'è bisogno di un programma..... quale? scusa la mia ignoranza in materia
come scritto sopra, copia il file rinominato come gupdate.gcd nella cartella "garmin" del dispositivo. al riavvio del gps ti chiederà se vuoi installare il nuovo sw. non devi aprire nessun file.

comunque nel mio 62s, pare che la 3.50 non dia problemi... bo.

@scratera: grazie per la delucidazione.
 

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Scaricato ma mi dice che per aprire il file c'è bisogno di un programma..... quale? scusa la mia ignoranza in materia

...in tutti i programmi < garmin dovresti avere WebUpdater...taso dx del topino sopra a webupdater...invia a desktop....ora hai il collegamento sul desktop...prendi il file gupdate e lo trascini sopra all'icona di webupdater...naturalmente devi avere anche il 62 collegato al pc...dopo di che prosegui come un normalissimo aggiornamento del dispositivo....o-o..

come scritto sopra, copia il file rinominato come gupdate.gcd nella cartella "garmin" del dispositivo. al riavvio del gps ti chiederà se vuoi installare il nuovo sw. non devi aprire nessun file.

comunque nel mio 62s, pare che la 3.50 non dia problemi... bo.

@scratera: grazie per la delucidazione.
...fai così lo accendi lasci che prenda i satelliti...verifichi nel campo dati l'altezza...torni a casa aspetti di perdere il segnale e vedi se hai ancora l'altezza attiva nel campo dati....:spetteguless:...sul mio e quello di frder l'altezza si annulla e scompare...per ricomparire dopo aver agganciato nuovamente i satelliti e ballando tra una misura e l'altra fino ad assestarsi...
 

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...in tutti i programmi < garmin dovresti avere WebUpdater...taso dx del topino sopra a webupdater...invia a desktop....ora hai il collegamento sul desktop...prendi il file gupdate e lo trascini sopra all'icona di webupdater...naturalmente devi avere anche il 62 collegato al pc...dopo di che prosegui come un normalissimo aggiornamento del dispositivo....o-o..


...fai così lo accendi lasci che prenda i satelliti...verifichi nel campo dati l'altezza...torni a casa aspetti di perdere il segnale e vedi se hai ancora l'altezza attiva nel campo dati....:spetteguless:...sul mio e quello di frder l'altezza si annulla e scompare...per ricomparire dopo aver agganciato nuovamente i satelliti e ballando tra una misura e l'altra fino ad assestarsi...
(se avessi letto qualche messaggio fa...:pirletto:)
si è vero, si comporta esattamente cosi. torno alla 3.40, visto che di questi problemi non ne ha...
 

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(se avessi letto qualche messaggio fa...:pirletto:)
si è vero, si comporta esattamente cosi. torno alla 3.40, visto che di questi problemi non ne ha...
...ci consoliamo...se hai voglia di comunicarlo qua http://www.garmin.it/contatti.htm
...io e frder lo abbiamo già fatto...ma più gente lo fa notare più si impegnano...:il-saggi:
io ho scritto così

con la 3.50 una volta persi i satelliti l’altimetro barometrico si azzera e al nuovo aggancio ai satelliti l’altimetria sballa anche di un 100 m prima di stabilizzarsi al valore effettivo. Anche se si calibra l’altimetro con la 3.50 il risultato non va a buon fine, ovvero il Garmin afferma l’avvenuta calibrazione ma se si visualizza il campo dati altimetrico l’altezza non cambia.

...o-o...
 

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mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";} </style> <![endif]--> · NMEA – abilitiamo la porta USB per dialogare con i prodotti che supportano la standard NMEA 0183.
· Solo testo - fornisce le semplici informazioni in uscita con lo standard testo ASCII con i dati relativi a posizione e velocità.
· RTCM – ovvero Radio Technical Commission for Maritime Services e consente il dialogo con gli apparecchi che trattano informazioni DGPS per la trasmissione di dati RTCM in un formato SC-104.
cose queste che solo il map62 fa non i risulta che altri lo facciano a parte l'oregon che dialoga solo però con protocollo NMEA




...mmhhh....potrei suggerirti di tornare lla relase firmware 3.40 visto che sei andato ad aggiornare alla 3.50 che ha già riscontrato un paio di bachi....
...se non ce l'hai la trovi qua

GPSMAP62_78_WebUpdat..>
..una volta scaricata la devi rinominare in GUPDATE.GCD e posizionare il file all'interno della cartella Garmin del 62S
....accenderlo e confermare il fatto di voler tornare ad una versione precedente....o-o..

cosa significa tutto questo in pratica?
 

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...ci consoliamo...se hai voglia di comunicarlo qua http://www.garmin.it/contatti.htm
...io e frder lo abbiamo già fatto...ma più gente lo fa notare più si impegnano...:il-saggi:
io ho scritto così

con la 3.50 una volta persi i satelliti l&#8217;altimetro barometrico si azzera e al nuovo aggancio ai satelliti l&#8217;altimetria sballa anche di un 100 m prima di stabilizzarsi al valore effettivo. Anche se si calibra l&#8217;altimetro con la 3.50 il risultato non va a buon fine, ovvero il Garmin afferma l&#8217;avvenuta calibrazione ma se si visualizza il campo dati altimetrico l&#8217;altezza non cambia.

...o-o...

lo farò, visto che il problema è tutt'altro che ininfluente riguardo l'uso del gps.

EDIT
ho segnalato anche io il problema a garmin.
 

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