Quale Garmin? Etrex 30, Dakota 20 o Edge 800?

  • Cominciano a vedersi in giro le prime bici con il nuovo motore Bosch SX, la drive unit per le ebike leggere del marchio tedesco. Dopo la Canyon Neuron ON Fly è la volta della Mondraker Dune. Andiamo a vedere nel dettaglio le differenze fra il CX full power e l’SX, quanto quest’ultimo sia potente e quale autonomia offre con la sua batteria standard di 420WH.
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Vinc74

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Cannondale Jekyll - Mondraker E-Crafty
Io ho comprato l'etrex30 perchè:
- non mi interessavano le funzioni specifiche per allenamento
- costa meno dell'edge 800
- in fuoristrada e con i guanti preferisco i tasti al touch del dakota
 

ecoevo

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dao987

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800: ottimizzato per le bici. gestisce allenamenti, corse, ha il virtual partner.
etrex e dakota: ottimizzati per le escursioni. hanno bussola elettronica che aiuta molto nella navigazione. si sposano bene con basecamp

se lo userai solo per bici e ti piace il fatto che registri dati come cadenza, velocità, oppure ti piace usare le funzioni per l'allenamento allora io andrei sull'800 (infatti ce l'ho); se lo userai anche per escursioni a piedi o non ti importa dell allenamento, cadenza e roba varia allora etrex 30
per la qualità, personalmente conosco solo l'800 ma di solito garmin ha un buono standard sui suoi dispositivi.
 

kikkofede

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Il GPS è per un amico...

Comunque nessun allenamento o cadenza....solo un GPS da portarsi con se nelle escursione per seguire nuove tracce (Scaricabili online?), da utilizzare con fascia cardio.

A questo punto credo che l'Etrex30 sia il più indicato.
 

scratera

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Lo stò per comprare anch'io, ma sul sito : [url]https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=145&pID=87774[/URL] dà 2 possibilità, etrex30 o etrex 30+trek map italia... ora dato che la differenza è 100 euro, sta trek map italia si trova da scaricare?? e senza quella immagino che l'apparecchio sia inutile?? sempre per l'uso che ne farei io: escursioni (in bici e a piedi) e salvataggio dei percorsi
...leggi qua Giudizio globale sulle Garmin TrekMap Italia
...ci sono mappe free molto più dettagliate...o-o...
 

FabioL

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Etrex 30 Dakota 20 Edge 800?
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Dipende da che ti serve, Edge 800 è perfetto per la bici ma se non ti servono le mappe il 500 è pure meglio (meno ingombrante), se vai a piedi meglio Etrex30 o Dakota(anche qui dipende che funzioni ti intressano e se preferisci touch screen o no).
Io ho avuto Edge 305 Edge 705 Edge Edge 500 Foreruner 910XT(provato poco e sbito venduto direi perfetto strumento per triathleti), ora ho un Edge 800 e un Etrex 30; comunque tutti prodotti eccellenti con un ottima assitenza.
 

scratera

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Ragazzi scusate, ma etrex 30 non segna la velocità? Mi consigliare un Sigma BC 2209 MHR + etrex 30 o solo edge 500?

...ecco quello che l'etrex 30 può segnare a tua scelta nei 16 campi dati delle 4 pagine a tua scelta...o-o...

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Indicatore
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Intensità segnale GPS
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Livello batteria
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Precisione GPS
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Rateo planata a dest.
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Temperatura
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TSA(ETA) a successivo
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Tramonto
Velocità avv. effettivo
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Velocita avvicinamento effettivo ad un waypoint
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Vel. media in movimento
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Vel. Verticale a dest.
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Velocità
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Velocità massima
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Velocità media totale
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Velocità verticale
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Verso il percorso
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Waypoint a destinazione
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Waypoint al successivo
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makkot

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ho fatto delle ricerche perché interessato all'acquisto e dalle varie recensioni il miglior compromesso è ETREX 30.
Per uso mountain bike. autonomia superiore agli altri modelli. mappe caricabili su mem. interna o sd (openmaps e non a pagamento)
 

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ho fatto delle ricerche perché interessato all'acquisto e dalle varie recensioni il miglior compromesso è ETREX 30.
Per uso mountain bike. autonomia superiore agli altri modelli. mappe caricabili su mem. interna o sd (openmaps e non a pagamento)


Personalmente ho avuto sia Extrex30 ed ora Edge 800.
Per quanto mi riguarda, tutta la vita il secondo.
Più intuitivo, strutturato meglio, dimensioni più contenute, autonomia ottima, ricezione satelliti perfetta, schermata più semplificata, scorrimento all'interno menu con touch decisamente più comoda.

Io lo presi usato sul mercatino a 200€.
 

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Personalmente ho avuto sia Extrex30 ed ora Edge 800.
Per quanto mi riguarda, tutta la vita il secondo.
Più intuitivo, strutturato meglio, dimensioni più contenute, autonomia ottima, ricezione satelliti perfetta, schermata più semplificata, scorrimento all'interno menu con touch decisamente più comoda.

Io lo presi usato sul mercatino a 200€.

ah !
io non parlo per esperienza diretta ma solo per letture comparative, che comunque vanno sviscerate in base ai propri scopi (etrx30 non ha tutta la parte allenamento se non erro)

Sul touch screen molti recensori (non che debbano essere presi per vangelo) lo mettono come punto a favore...quando non c'è LOL

Con i guanti forse preferirei anche io i bottoni fisici, sia all'asciutto che sotto la pioggia. Ma è tutto molto soggettivo credo.
 

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ah !
io non parlo per esperienza diretta ma solo per letture comparative, che comunque vanno sviscerate in base ai propri scopi (etrx30 non ha tutta la parte allenamento se non erro)

Sul touch screen molti recensori (non che debbano essere presi per vangelo) lo mettono come punto a favore...quando non c'è LOL

Con i guanti forse preferirei anche io i bottoni fisici, sia all'asciutto che sotto la pioggia. Ma è tutto molto soggettivo credo.


Guarda, io ti posso assicurare che il touch lo si usa tranquillamente anche con i guanti lunghi e bagnati.

Se non hai limiti di budget, fossi in te andrei di 810.
Più durata batteria, migliore ricezioni satelliti e, secondo me fondamentale se si esce da soli, la possibilità di essere tracciato durante l'uscita da un caro/famigliare tramite PC.
 

makkot

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Guarda, io ti posso assicurare che il touch lo si usa tranquillamente anche con i guanti lunghi e bagnati.

Se non hai limiti di budget, fossi in te andrei di 810.
Più durata batteria, migliore ricezioni satelliti e, secondo me fondamentale se si esce da soli, la possibilità di essere tracciato durante l'uscita da un caro/famigliare tramite PC.

doppio ah !
bhè se la batteria è sensibilmente maggiore, il touch reattivo, e ti tracciano da casa...eh sì, vince lui.
 

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doppio ah !
bhè se la batteria è sensibilmente maggiore, il touch reattivo, e ti tracciano da casa...eh sì, vince lui.

Tu fornisci a chi vuoi la tua e-mail e loro tramite quella, collegata ovviamente al tuo account Garmin, possono tracciarti ovunque tu sia.

Ovviamente meglio toccar ferro, ma per il periodo che sta arrivando lo trovo manna dal cielo soprattutto per le uscite in solitario.

Io ci sto facendo un pensierino, la sicurezza prima di tutto.
 

makkot

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Tu fornisci a chi vuoi la tua e-mail e loro tramite quella, collegata ovviamente al tuo account Garmin, possono tracciarti ovunque tu sia.
Ovviamente meglio toccar ferro, ma per il periodo che sta arrivando lo trovo manna dal cielo soprattutto per le uscite in solitario.
Io ci sto facendo un pensierino, la sicurezza prima di tutto.

Si sono d'accordissimo, soprattutto qui in Italia dove se non ti fai male perchè caschi in un dirupo ci pensano le macchine a farti il pelo.

Ho già segnalato un' app molto comoda per le uscite solitarie, ma la riesumo visto che siamo in tema:
non so su iOs, ma su google play cercando SOS SPORT
c'è un'app che usando o iil gps o il motion sensor, se state fermi per un tempo indicato allora fa partire un sms (previo allarme sonoro) con link google maps di dove ci si trova, indirizzato a chi vogliamo.
E attivabile anche manualmente cliccando icona SOS.

Per farsi seguire live in caso non si avesse il garmin citato, si può usare Runtastic Mtb, all'avvio della sessione si accetta il LIVE e lui sul sito runtastic mostra il nostro spostamento realtime (a tutti o solo a agli amici runtastic, a seconda della privacy scelta)

Non ho ancora provato runtastic live, ma SOS sport lo attivo sempre, comprando la licenza a pochi euro si attivano opzioni utili. Ad esempio scuotendo il telefono si stoppa l'allarme che precede l'sms qualora questo rilevi un non-moto erroneamente.
 

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