Garmin GPSMAP 64

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RUDI85

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ciao scratera!
Intanto perdonami se ieri non ho più risposto!visite inattese(amici)mi hanno fatto chiudere tutto e ci siamo fatto 4 chiacchiere!Questa sera metto in atto i link che mi hai citato!così vediamo che riesco a combinare!sarà da ridere!hahahahah
E ti ringrazio per la pazienza che porti nel rispondermi!
 

skipper51

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Ciao skipper, vorrei prendere anch'io quelle da te postate, adesso sto usando queste [URL]http://www.amazon.it/dp/B003QQFIES/?tag=mmc08-21[/URL]
che vanno bene ma nel GPS MAP 64s sono un po' fiacche, non riesco a farci due uscite "piene", probabilmente ha bisogno di batterie con maggiore capacità.

Quindi secondo te non vale la pena spendere di più (quasi il doppio) per le originali "Pro"?



Il BC 700 è ottimo, lo ricomprerei subito!
Le batterie che tu hai preso sono da 2000 mAh, quelle che ti ho indicato io sono da 2500...quindi il 25% in più di carica. Io poi, facendo trekking, non ho bisogno di guardare costantemente il Garmin (anche perchè facendo così più di una volta sono caduto...) ed ho attivato la modalità di risparmio facendo spegnere lo schermo dopo 1 minuto. In questo modo io faccio tranquillamente 14 h (2 escursioni da 7h) con un pacco di batterie.
 
Le batterie che tu hai preso sono da 2000 mAh, quelle che ti ho indicato io sono da 2500...quindi il 25% in più di carica. Io poi, facendo trekking, non ho bisogno di guardare costantemente il Garmin (anche perchè facendo così più di una volta sono caduto...) ed ho attivato la modalità di risparmio facendo spegnere lo schermo dopo 1 minuto. In questo modo io faccio tranquillamente 14 h (2 escursioni da 7h) con un pacco di batterie.

Grazie delle info, a dir la verità lo uso molto anch'io per fare trekking, tenendolo appeso allo spallaccio dello zaino col suo moschettone ma, se fa freddo, la durata delle batterie è critica. Vorrei quindi passare a quelle con maggiore capacità e quelle che hai tu mi sembrano il miglior rapporto qualità/prezzo.
 

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ECCHIME ANCORA!! una domanda ancora sul setting tattico!sto guardando le batterie(sono un po' preso con lavoro e casa e sfortunatamente posso dedicare poco tempo al gps. guardando tra le ricaricabili,ho trovato le eneloop (http://www.amazon.it/dp/B00JWC40JY/?tag=mmc08-21) e anche batterie nimh della casa amazon (http://www.amazon.it/dp/B00CWNMR5Y/?tag=mmc08-21) voi che consigliereste?contando che uso il gps sia in moto che in bicicletta!
Scusatemi ancora se vi tartasso...ma sono proprio un neofita!

Prendi le Amazon..sono eneloop rimarcate da Amazon. Leuso da ormai 1 anno sul 64s e sono una bomba
 

RUDI85

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CIAO zambhia!e si! alla fine comprate proprio quelle!e,vediamo questo week end che le testo con un amico in MB!ne porto via 4 di batterie per sicurezza!
 

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Presa la custodia: calza a pennello e non pregiudica più di tanto la visibilità e l'uso dei tasti. Presa dopo la prima uscita in MTB, prima che polvere, fango, frasche e rovi potessero rigare il display. Nelle discese più scassate offre un'ottima protezione qualora riposto all'interno dello zaino il GPS venga a contatto con altri oggetti. (Ho corredato la staffa dal meccanismo di blocco non proprio granitico con un laccettino di sicurezza)
http://www.amazon.it/dp/B003TZBE94/?tag=mmc08-21
Aggiungere del testo alla schermata di avvio http://eliflap.it/2015/10/10/edge-810-eliflap/ funziona anche sul 64s. Editato con notepad++ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/
 

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Io, come forse sapete, faccio trekking, e quindi vado piano. Ho provato tutti i sistemi che dice l'articolo e sono sostanzialmente d'accordo.
Comunque ho da dire qualcosa: metodo distanza ha il vantaggio di usare un n. di punti non eccessivo e di non farmi le "ragnatele" quando sono fermo (il che in un'escursione capita diverse volte: pausa per riposarsi durante una salita impegnativa, pausa pranzo, per fotografare ecc...). Escursione dell'altro ieri di 15 Km, messo in modalità distanza a 10 mt (mi sarebbe piaciuto che il mio 64s contemplasse la possibilità di registrare magari ogni 5mt...di meno non serve perchè l'errore minimo è comunque sui 3 mt in buona visibilità...) e ottengo così 1500 punti.
Se l'avessi messo in modalità ORA con intervallo di 5 sec. come dice l'articolo, visto che siamo stati in giro per 8 ore (il terreno era decisamente impervio) comprese le pause, avrei ottenuto 720 punti all'ora per 8 ore...totale quasi 5800 punti che avrei dopo dovuto ripulire da tutti i punti inutili delle pause...ne vale la pena? Certo potrei interrompere la registrazione ogni volta che faccio una pausa...ma che palle!
Poi, se mi trovo con costoni rocciosi molto vicini (è il caso effettivo) oppure sotto un bosco molto fitto, l'errore è sicuramente superiore a 3mt (ho verificato che posso arrivare anche intorno agli 8-10 mt) e allora che senso ha avere un n. di punti tanto elevato se poi l'errore è discreto? E' vero che poi lo strumento raccordando i punti fa sì che la curva stessa sia migliore perchè l'errore è una volta in un senso e una volta (magari) nell'altro, però sinceramente non so quanto ne valga la pena.
Per ultimo, e la cosa mi fa un tantino inc...are, contemporaneamente ho registrato la traccia con il mio LG G3 messo dentro il marsupio (!) con il programma Twonav (stessi risultati si ottengono con Oruxmaps). Ho messo a distanza con intervallo di 7 mt...ebbene le 2 tracce, del 64s e del Lg G3, riportate su mappa satellitare con SasPlanet, sono assolutamente confrontabili anche se il 64s è messo a registrare in posizione certamente migliore rispetto al LG. Non parliamo poi di come si vedono le mappe sul 64s o sul Lg G3 (5,5 pollici e una risoluzione ben diversa!)...ho messo in Twonav l'IGM con sovrapposta la openmtb della Sardegna...uno spettacolo.
A favore del 64s devo dire che la differenza si vede quando la ricezione è davvero difficile e che la bussola funziona decisamente meglio rispetto a quanto mi fa vedere Twonav.
Conclusione: per quanto mi riguarda trovo che mi è normalmente sufficiente il metodo a distanza 10mt, certamente non mi perdo in questo modo. Poi se ho voglia di sbattermi a ripulire la traccia, certamente otterrei risultati migliori con metodo a tempo a intervalli di 5 sec...a voi la scelta.
 

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Aggiungo qualcosa su quanto detto da scratera riguardo alla distanza tra un punto e l'altro della traccia...con il metodo a distanza di 10 mt, quando poi vado a vedere la traccia con Basecamp, si nota che le distanze da un punto all'altro sono spesso ben diverse dai 10 mt. Addirittura i primi punti sono molto distanti....ho avuto fretta di partire appena fatto il fixing dei satelliti!. Credo di non sbagliare dicendo che l'errore del GPS influenza il momento in cui prende il punto: cioè il Garmin pensa che io abbia camminato per 10 mt., ma in effetti non è così, perchè poi, sovrapponendo la traccia al PC sulla mappa e facendo Apri con Basecamp, ottengo distanze reali da un punto all'altro magari di 12 mt, di 15 mt, di 7mt, di 5mt....e questo credo che sia dovuto proprio all'errore di precisione dello strumento. Certo, con il metodo a tempo, prendendo moltissimi punti, poichè l'errore statisticamente non è sempre nello stesso verso, si media l'errore e alla fine la traccia che ne risulta è sicuramente più "morbida" e più precisa dell'altro metodo....come dice l'articolo, dipende molto da ciò che si vuol ottenere.
 

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Traccia registrata domenica con il settaggio 1 punto ogni 5 secondi http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=bxaljbfbdrpscoophttp://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=bxaljbfbdrpscoop con i Km dal 41.9 al 45.2 fatti a piedi. Volendola modificare GPSIES riduce i punti da 7036 a 2361. Nonostante ciò i punti da ripulire nel tratto in cui ci siamo fermati per cambiarci sono molto numerosi.
Anche io spero che non sia molto lontano il giorno in cui potremo sostituire i prodotti del monopolio Garmin con qualcosa del tipo http://www.everbuying.net/product10...ebook&utm_medium=WebsiteC&utm_campaign=FB1509http://www.everbuying.net/product10...ebook&utm_medium=WebsiteC&utm_campaign=FB1509 potenziato dal punto di vista della ricettività
Uno dei motivi per cui ho preso il GPSMAP 64s erano le Smart Notification da smartphone Android. Ma Garmin è stata molto scorretta nello sbandierarle salvo poi rispondermi con questo documento http://static.garmincdn.com/gcm/BLE_Android.pdfhttp://static.garmincdn.com/gcm/BLE_Android.pdf dal quale si evince che i devices Android compatibili sono solo una decina.
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scratera

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....provate ad usare il cronometro. ...tenendo la traccia attiva. ...avviate e fermate il cronometro ad ogni sosta. ....se fa come suo padre dovrebbe registrare due tracce. ....una totale. ...e una pulita dalle soste. ..

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petibone

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Buon giorno a tutti, sono l'ultimo arrivato. Ho letto con piacere la discussione sul Garmin 64s. Sono intenzionato ad acquistare un gps da usare prevalentemente per le camminate in montagna, ed ero orientato sul 64s. In un confronto con il Garmin Oregon 600 od il TwoNav Ultra, quale mi consigliereste?:help:
 

skipper51

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Io ho il 64s e non conosco gli altri 2, ma posso dire che giusto l'altro ieri, i miei 2 compagni di escursione mi hanno ringraziato per averli tirati fuori dai guai....eravamo in un posto difficilissimo, senza riferimenti e dove bastava un errore di 10mt per non beccare dei passaggi importantissimi, con il rischio di trovarsi su dei salti insuperabili. In particolare bisognava beccare esattamente l'ingresso in una codula e se non si entrava lì ....potevamo chiamare il soccorso alpino (avendo un telefono satellitare però!). I miei amici avevano solo due smartphone con software twonav, che dava però risultati abbastanza imprecisi (presenza di pareti verticali molto vicine evidentemente li mettevano in crisi).
Per la mia esperienza, per seguire una traccia e per registrarla il 64s non ha eguali.
Ripeto comunque che non ho esperienza con gli altri 2 modelli, dico solo che mi trovo benissimo con il mio 64s.
 

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